While interpreting bible many persons do the following steps : (just imagination)
Read the verse, if meaning is clear don’t take it.
Compare the verse with the other verse having same words or meaning (If you collect many verses it is better, the strength and validity of message depends on no. of verses collected and people will think you are a great man)
Put all verses in your mind and shake, shake and shake
Now you will get one meaning compare with your already preconceived meaning
If it is matching take it, not matching again go for step 2 and 3 for 2 or 3 times
If it is not matching get Hebrew bible or Greek bible and find the meaning of the words
Again not matching then find out the bible in world which is matching with your preconceived meaning.
If not, then go for Greek or Hebrew alphabets …………… continues
The above type of understanding belongs to western mind. Indian mind is one which get the implied meaning of verses directly
in a way it should decrease your distance between god and you, and not putting any barriers in understanding god’s verses
It is like the following story
One person has a duck He want to find where the life of the duck is. So he started cutting the duck. In this process the duck died and he not able to find the life of the duck.
In the same way if you start analyzing the verses (in some cases) like the story of Job you will find dead duck only.
I understand many verses in its implied meaning so it is not become barrier to me.
I analyzed the question “Who is responsible for Jobs sufferings” with the implied meaning. And now I am happy with it.
Another example :
In bible God is our Father this is enough to understand many things,
But instead of telling it directly one can find the verses which prove the following facts
1. God will give chocolates if we want
2. God will send us to school
3. God will strike if we do something wrong
After explaining above facts 1 to 3 with verses, one can say because it is matching with father in our world, God is our father
-- Edited by SANDOSH on Sunday 24th of January 2010 02:04:59 PM
I think nobody read my message. I seen only 4 views are there and I think all the 4 are seen by myself. I think because it is in english nobody gives attention. If you have time and if you want you can translate in tamil. If not, atleast change the heading itself in tamil. I think it is possible by moderator. Especially brother sundar not written anything. I dont know whether he knows english or not.
-- Edited by SANDOSH on Saturday 23rd of January 2010 07:20:22 PM
Although, I don’t want to say anything about what is the reason for sufferings in Christians life I want to answer who is responsible for sufferings of the Job. Nothing wrong with Job. He is blameless as God said.
There is nothing wrong to ask this question and to find the answer. But this answer cannot be related with the sufferings of today Christians. how? read it to know
From my view God is responsible for Job’s sufferings.
Why and for what god allowed Job to suffer? nowi will explain.
1. God knows about everything before anything is going to happen in future. HE knows about all things and about all persons life (it is known as unmanifest view of God). HE knows about fall of angel (satan) and fall of adam before the incidents.
2. Due to his strength and pride satan thought that he can separate human from God if God is not saving the man. He also thought that he is the winner in human life because he already cheated adam and eve.
3. God want to show his thinking and his pride is wrong and human have the strength to win over satan
4. If one man wins over satan it indicates whole humanity won over satan. So job represents the whole humanity
5. God just allowed things to happen because everything is HIS and everything is for HIM and HE can do everything whatever HE wants. HE is not doing justice but whatever HE do that is going to be the justice (To understand this great and deep revelation is required)
6. As God knows before, Job defeated satan and it is satan's first defeat in front of man
7. Through Job whole humanity defeated satan
8. God announced the winning of humanity over satan even before the coming of Christ that means satan is going to be the very , very, very big loser after the coming of Christ.
9. One man is enough to show the victory of humanity so God never given this type of testing to any man
10. Job understood God's reason for his suffering and he praised the God
11. Don't relate suffering of Job to any sufferings of today’s man. It is totally unique and it is arranged by God to announce the victory of humanity over satan.
12. Nobody can argue about the justice with God because whatever HE is doing that is going to be justice. Everything and everyone is for HIM and in HIM.
Now I am going to rise another question (I know the answer but I want to know others view) Why God became that much angry with Job?
